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« on: June 22, 2010, 05:12:49 PM »

*Controversial subject so there is going to be some arguments, arguments are good though u can learn a lot from them.*

Personally I believe that the best Martial Arts is a mix of all of them. Aka MMA

Each Martial Arts has something that its best at. IE: Mauy Thai striking game, BJJ submission game, Wrestling take downs.

Some of my favorite Martial Arts are BJJ, Wrestling, and Judo. They all fill in the holes, BJJ are superior ground game easily beating out Wrestling and Judo. BJJ I noticed has some of the weaker takedowns and aren't really know for that. Wrestling has amazing take downs and superior transitions on the ground but its not very realistic because it is a sport and not based on life or death situations so its not very good for submissions. Judo is sorta of like the jack of all trades but it is most notorious for its throwing. Judo is sort of that if I can get it awesome if I can't rely on something else. While Judoka train in both striking (more prominent in Japan.) submissions and takedowns there not very strong in these aspects which is why its good to learn other things. The throws in Judo are devastating and focus on landing your opponents on there back where you can easily Knee mount or Side control then work your BJJ. However in real life applications (Street Fights.) its not as useless as people thing, If I get a good judo throw on the concrete the forces generated can cause severe back injuries capable of paralyzing (if your feeling assholish enough.) other wise if you don't put all your force into the throw somebody who isn't trained to absorb energy while falling will have the wind knocked out of them allowing you to easily mount and finish them off with ground and pound. Judo is very prominent with police forces because if used properly can be used to disable a person with out injuring them with little effort.

I hate Martial Arts that are fancy IE: Tae Kwon Do. Styles like Tae Kwon Do don't go over the scenario of a grapple artist and are easily taken down and don't know what to do on the ground. I have seen few Martial Arts like Karate and Tae Kwon Do do any ground work or focus on it. BJJ is built around the fact that a lot of fights end up on the ground in real life and thats pretty true and for Martial Arts to not focus on Ground Work or even take down defense is just embarrassing.

Tae Kwon Do is more of a sport I understand that its also great for improving your balance and coordination but dont get cocky and think any one will be beaten by your mad kicking skills.

Also remember that some of the greatest Martial Artists knew many Martial Arts. IE: Jackie Chan, Chuck Norris, Bruce Lee, blah blah blah

Military hand to hand uses aspects from many martial arts as well

Btw I need to learn knife fighting and I gotta take some gun control lesson ughaghah

don't forget to include lists of your favorite Martial Arts and ones you have participated in.

I've taken
BJJ
Judo
Wrestling
Kick Boxing style that includes clinching, knees and elbows.

Share some videos

Judo videos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvI5X0-nY1E&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhKsGgUCaUI&feature=related

Favorite MMA fights

Korean Zombie vs Garcia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhKsGgUCaUI&feature=related [Part 1]

Royce Gracie vs Matt Hughes
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Forest Griffin vs Stephan Bonnar
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Funny Video
http://videosift.com/video/Show-off-boxer-gets-knocked-outHILARIOUS
Even if it might have been from a movie or fake it is still funny as hell.
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« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2010, 06:08:44 PM »

Personally I'm in taekwondo, and from reading your post i think this. You said,


Tae Kwon Do is more of a sport I understand that its also great for improving your balance and coordination but dont get cocky and think any one will be beaten by your mad kicking skills.


and I think that, you need to stop telling people to not be cocky and not be so cocky yourself. For the fact that, with those 'mad kicking skills' there are people that can kick at 110 mph, ive seen it happen, and if your delusional enough to think that wont beat anybody then you need to get checked for being mentally retarded.
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« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2010, 08:31:33 PM »

Personally I'm in taekwondo, and from reading your post i think this. You said,


Tae Kwon Do is more of a sport I understand that its also great for improving your balance and coordination but dont get cocky and think any one will be beaten by your mad kicking skills.


and I think that, you need to stop telling people to not be cocky and not be so cocky yourself. For the fact that, with those 'mad kicking skills' there are people that can kick at 110 mph, ive seen it happen, and if your delusional enough to think that wont beat anybody then you need to get checked for being mentally retarded.

Hey don't be an ass about it. Read the message through and through, you didn't get anything I said and started making stuff up.

Theres a difference between argument and being confrontational. Never said a 110 mph kick can't knock some one out, just making a point that every person I've met who has taken Tae Kwon Do seem to be extremely defensive about it (btw do take Tae Kwon Do?) and seem to think that there Martial Arts is the only thing they need to beat anybody up and it made me slightly mad at first but then I just realized its not a big deal if they think they can do that.

Never said a 110 mph can't knock some one out but your being cocky as hell to think that it will always work nothing always works.

all I was saying is I hate how Tae Kwon Do is so limited to basic striking and complicated kicks and how it doesn't really work against anybody who knows how to get in quick and work the clinch good.

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nvm misunderstanding instead of any one I should have said everyone my mistake. Maybe I should read my own message through and through xD
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« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2010, 08:51:47 PM »

Mhm, again i see your point.. And i agree with you more now, nothing works 100% of the time, though another aspect of anything is that basically no matter WHAT it is if your really truly good at it then thats probly your best bet for staying alive..

Also, taekwondo sparring and especially olympic taekwondo sparring is about 30% about the clinch. Not a whole lot of detail goes into it but we basically get taught that if the time comes when you need to, just take a few rapid strikes at the body and then get out of there so you can continue to kick
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« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2010, 09:13:08 PM »

Mhm, again i see your point.. And i agree with you more now, nothing works 100% of the time, though another aspect of anything is that basically no matter WHAT it is if your really truly good at it then thats probly your best bet for staying alive..

Also, taekwondo sparring and especially olympic taekwondo sparring is about 30% about the clinch. Not a whole lot of detail goes into it but we basically get taught that if the time comes when you need to, just take a few rapid strikes at the body and then get out of there so you can continue to kick

Grapplers wont eva let you got, they'll hug you teh death xDDDD

Btw word of the wise if your going against a Mauy Thai expert or a good MMA fighter never clinch if your not good at the clinch you'll get destroyed by there take downs and knees. Tae Kwon Do fighter would have to keep range and use quick strikes. Anything that takes you awhile to recover from (like a Round House Kick.) will probably result in a takedown because you can't move right away.

It all depends on your opponent I suppose.

Two types of clinches, the ones that break up the fight (mostly seen in boxing matches and in your case Tae Kwon Do matches) and what I mean by that is your not really looking to deliver any damage there your just trying to stop the opponent from doing anything while your not.

Then theres the ones that are aggressive used to destroy there opponents (Mauy Thai is notorious for this.) See Anderson Silva, amazing Mauy Thai clinch just destroys his opponents with knees scary man very scary.
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